Didn't You Hear
UPDATES!
UPDATE 1: Reader John Stanton sent me this
interesting letter:
"I decided to do a little searching for info on the
film Didn't
You Hear and came across your excellent site. Looks like a
labor
of love and though I am not as much as a film fan as I once was (I'm
afraid
the music bug is my consuming passion), I'm sure I'll find lots more
that
will be interesting.
"Anyway, more to the point, you mentioned that if
anyone had any
information relevant to the film then let you know. This is
rather
peripheral and you may be aware of this already but the person who
composed
the score for the music Mort Garson, was a fairly well known musician
in
the late 60's/early 70's, primarily for his use of the then novel Moog
and other synthesizers. He recorded an LP under the moniker
Lucifer,
entitled Black Mass; it is dark brooding electronics. Also he
did
an LP called Cosmic Sounds which is based on signs of the
Zodiac
which is similar but in a more psychedelic 60's mode. I am sure
he
did other recordings as well and may still be active in music today,
who
knows.
"I have only seen maybe 1 hr. of this film but am
going to
try to
get a copy on video if I can. I fell asleep on the couch one
evening
and woke up about 3:00 in the morning and couldn't get back to
sleep.
I turned on the TV and did a little channel surfing and this film was
on.
It was at the sequence where the "mermaid" swims onto the boat and
joins
the crew. I was fascinated by what I saw though the flaws you
pointed
out were blatant and the film seemed as ridiculous as it was
ambitious. Nonetheless I was very much held rapt by the movie. I
was extremely tired
however and fell back asleep after perhaps 45 min -1 hr. Always tried
to
find out more about this film and well, here I am. I seemed to recall
that
it looked like Judd Hirsch was also in this film or am I mistaken?
Anyway,
thanks for the info and again, great site!"
Thanks for this information, John. To answer your
question: Judd Hirsch
did not appear in this movie. Aside from Christopher, Busey, and
Waters,
it seems the rest of the cast was made up of unknowns. Good luck trying
to find it on video, though; it's long been out of print.
UPDATE 2: Reader Timothy L. Fox was kind
enough to share this information with me:
"I'm surprised no one has said this, or perhaps they
have already
and I don't know, but Jack Kosslyn, who played Higby in Didn't You
Hear,
had a somewhat productive film career and was a frequent favorite of
Director
/ Producer / Writer / Special Effects Artist Bert I. Gordon. Some of
the
films he appeared in, besides Gordon's, include Play Misty for Me
and High Plains Drifter. Great film site, I'll be sure to
bookmark
it!"
UPDATE 3: Bruce Kitts sent me this very
interesting letter:
"Here's what I can tell you about Didn't You Hear:
"Karl Krogstad and I were seniors at the University of Washington when
he approached me about his movie project. He had been making short
films in his
spare time, but somehow he connected with someone willing to let him
make a feature film.
"He had a script written by some woman about a fantasy daydream but he
needed something to set up the daydream. He described the characters
and
asked me to write something. I typed out about six pages, with the
conversation walking along the campus and the sorority initiation.
(When they showed it on television they drowned out Gary Busey's lines
with a jet
overhead.)" (Note: This also happens in the video version.)
"Krogstad said I would be paid for my writing and he set up a meeting
with Skip Sherwood, who turned out to be an ad salesman whose family
owned
newspapers and who had talked someone in his family into letting him
make a movie. Krogstad told me later that Sherwood had some connection
to a
production company and that many in the crew had worked in major
features, although in lesser jobs.
"Make no mistake about it, this was Krogstad's movie even though
Sherwood is
listed as the director. Krogstad was listed as the director of
photography, and the quality of his work stands out. Krogstad's family
had property in
the San Juan Islands and he picked out the locations. Krogstad and I
met with Skip Sherwood, who looked over my stuff and said it was great
and told me he can't pay me much. I said "I don't care, I'll just
feel good about having my name in the credits." The room goes silent
and I learn a lesson about film credits.
Sorry, but the rights to the credits were negotiated when they bought
the stupid daydream story. Sherwood says he'll give me $250, which I
never saw.
"The movie was filmed at the University of Washington during the
summer. I
had graduated and moved to Alaska where I was a newspaper reporter and
was unable to see the movie when it came out later that year. I read
the Seattle
papers, though, and read the reviews, one of which said that the only
good things about the movie were the funny scenes at the beginning of
the movie
and the scenic photography during the stupid daydream story. My family
saw the movie and occasionally I ran into people who saw it.
"Evidently they rented out four or five theaters around Seattle for a
week in
hopes of getting strong attendance. It snowed, and the next time I
saw
Krogstad (when he had another writing project for me), he told me that
the IRS owned the movie.
It wasn't until 1983 when it showed up in video that I finally was able
to see Didn't You
Hear.
I got out my carbon copies of my script and followed Gary Busey
and Dennis Christopher speaking my lines. They spoke them the way
I wrote them. Then I had to sit through the stupid daydream part.
"Krogstad has made many short films over the past 30 years or so.
He
utilized Barbie and Ken dolls almost 20 years before they showed up
in
Toyota's ad campaign. His Black-And-Decker Hedge Trimmer Murders
is
wonderful. He took a serious turn with "Surrealism." Information
about
Krogstad is available at his website at:
http://hometown.aol.com/kkrogstad/movies/krogstad.htm.
"Krogstad has good stories about the production including how he had to
stop
Gary Busey from punching Dennis Christopher because he thought Dennis
was stealing Gary's scenes."
UPDATE 4: Lynn Templeton provided this
information:
"I just read your essay and review of Didn't You
Hear. I too had an interest in this movie. One of the cast members,
John Rice, was in my high school class (Glacier High School, since
closed, near Seattle). I have no idea how he got in a movie a year
after we graduated (1969). To my knowledge, he was never in another
film. I've run into him a few times over the years and he had problems
with employment and alcohol and gambling. He was an overweight kid in
high school, but a very good golfer. He was on a state ranked golf
team, and I think his parents were country club types.
"I actually saw this movie at a drive in theatre and about fainted when
I
recognized John. I asked him about it at our 20th reunion and he
laughed it off as a fun experience."
UPDATE 5: Chas Mannell sent this along:
"I have been looking for some info. on the movie
soundtrack of the
above and was pleased to find an item on your site. I picked up the LP
soundtrack in a local junk shop last year and was intrigued by the
cover blurb and music within. As there is no mention of this LP in any
of the well-known record guides I have had a problem with getting some
background on it. Thanks to your great site, I now know a great deal
about it. You've probably seen the LP sleeve-it's all grainy black and
white with a sailing boat and several heads in the water. The titles
don't credit Gary Busey-just Christopher, Waters and Kauffman. Anyway,
in case you need to know, it's on the Custom Fidelity label out of
Hollywood (release number CFS2379)."
UPDATE 6: From Tom Koester:
"I was really surprised to find that Didn’t You
Hear had such a cult
following. I was the sound mixer on this film, which, except for
the
University scenes, was all shot in 1970 on Lopez Island.
"As one respondent correctly reported, the film’s creativity is all
Karl
Krogstad. Karl was (and still is) an experimental film/video
maker in the
Seattle area. Skip Sherwood was some sort of marketing
person. The
connection was made when Skip made some advertising spots (which may
have been Veg-a-Matic).
Karl had the film script and the idea, Skip had the dream of going
Hollywood. The film was shot in 35mm Techniscope (half frame) and the
Cinemascope compositions are a real plus since it seems to have
been shot without the concept of TV safe and “throw away”.
"The actors were a mix of Hollywood (Gary Busey, Cheryl Walters, Dennis
Christopher) and local folks. One local, Scott McBreen was a very
talented mimic. He was a golfer who did a stand-up act at
tournaments and golf clubs, doing imitations of famous golfers (and
their golf swings!) He was very funny. He kept the cast and
crew in stitches in the evenings doing imitations of literally everyone
in the cast and crew. I had never seen anyone who did such
a good imitation of ... me! His talent is not evident on
the screen.
"Bill Redlin was a Production Manager hired to make sure the film was
completed. He had a reputation for making sure of completion, and
I believe was a key element in getting completion bonds. Most of
the crew members came from Bill and had already worked on one or more
projects with him. A remarkable man, he passed away some time ago
(maybe 10 or more years). My brother (John Koester) was brought
along as
operator “to keep things straight” since Karl had never shot 35mm (or a
feature film) before. My brother had a long career in TV and
movies. His last credits were as Camera Operator on “Roswell” and
the first episodes of “NYPD Blue. He died in a traffic accident
in 1996.
"Karl Korgstad is still functioning as an experimental film
maker. In the 70 & 80’s, he made very ambitious live action
and puppet animation films: “Egg Nog”, “The Black and Deker Hedge
Trimmer Murders”, “Party Line”, “Jack in the Fox”, “Catharsis - or Life
in the Fast Lane”, shot with a very used spring wound Bolex and scads
of young Seattle volunteers. These films, like Didn’t
You Hear, burst with creativity and imaginative moments, but often
lack cohesiveness, drive or comprehension. In the 80’s he started
Krogstad Studios to make music videos, which seemed like a natural for
him, since non-sequitir creative images were the staple of early music
videos. He also made a feature film Strings, which is
nearly unwatchable and I don’t think ever saw any release.
Janice Findley, who worked with Karl on many of these films (and stars
in “Catharsis”) is a film maker in her own rite. Her film: “The
Art Form of the Twentieth Century” features Karl and very impressive
clips from his films. Currently, Karl seems to work
exclusively in video. I haven’t seen him in a couple of
years. The last video of his that I’ve seen: “Fork on a Filling”
shows his imagination still working
full tilt."
UPDATE 7: Ashley Sherwood contacted me with this:
"Just wanted to drop you a quick note...my niece came
across your review of this movie. Skip Sherwood is my father, he
currently lives in Massachusetts - but good luck tracking him down. He
also produced another movie you might want to check out - Americana
with David Carradine. Just wanted to note that Skip's family did not
own the newspaper that he worked at, it was the White Center News and
the paper was owned by Jerry Robison and my father was in charge of
advertising. Didn't You Hear was his first venture in to
filmmaking - which he followed with Americana... My
mother did have a copy of the movie, but doesn't know if it was still
around. She does have several copies of the record soundtrack. As she
put "The movie was good, but people got bored...the music is really
beautiful though." Like you every once in awhile (if she couldn't
sleep) she would come across it on VERY late night TV."
(Reader "Janet" wrote in to add, "Another movie named Country Mile
starring Bobbie Carradine produced and directed by Skip Sherwood and
David Carradine, was filmed at the same time of the movie
Americana.")
UPDATE 8: Scott McBreen ("Jeff") wrote in with
this:
"Yes, I was in this rotten tomatoe
(Quayle) Didn't You Hear. I have mostly rotten memories
of the whole experience, thanks to Gary Busey. Buesy, was an up
and coming, yet undiscovered, Hollywood actor who jumped at a chance to
star in a C-- movie. He had an ego that could fill the old
Kingdome. He would come to dominate everything; the rehearsals,
evening rehearsals, filming, night life, ladies on the set (damn
few), pot smoking time, up time, down time everything. This guy
could dominate it all.
"Most of us up her in the Pacific
Northwest had never seen nor met anyone quite like this. We filmed this
gem on one of the most beautiful islands in the world; Lopez Island in
the Washington San Juans. Paul Allen owns a mansion there. Most of us
viewed the whole experience as one grand vacation. The San Juans
are hidden in the rain shadow of the Olympic Mts, and south Lopez gets
less yearly rain than Los Angeles. It was so boring up there ( I
had a date with a cow one night) that we did our rehearsals for the
next day's shooting in the evening. Like all rehearsals, Busey
dominated this one. The asst director who was supposed to run
these things, got shut down immediately by the steamrolling Busey. He
actually was quite intimidated, and sat by while Busey enforced
his ideas on all. In his eyes, the movie was all about him.
"One night I couldn't take it anymore,
and stupidly I said to Busey, "Why don't you let the asst director run
these meeting." I realized my mistake when I saw steam rising out
of Busey's shirt collar. I was a paltry 150 lbs at the time, and
Busey was just out of Oklahoma football program, about 6 foot 3 and 225
lbs. And in shape too. I noticed it got silent in the room. After
the meeting, when we all cleared outside I noticed a hand coming across
my chest and the next thing I knew I was on the ground. This beet red
face was quivering above me, and this is all I remember hearing
"If you ever humiliate me again in front of all those people, they're
going to have to tear me off you.' I was the one quivering , and
for days. Trapped on Lopez Island with a mad man. And there
was no way off. This happened the first week of 5 long weeks on this
island.
"Believe me, I did my best to keep on
the farthest point of the Island from Busey after that. Oh, you
still couldn't avoid him; one night he came running into the barracks
with this odd Oklahoma twang "We got a bullet, we got a bullet."
What did that mean? A bullet was was his new hit single, which
for one day, 'raced' up the charts. He had a musical group on the side.
Multi talented, I guess. I heard it once on the radio 1970, then
never heard it again. The bullet was a 'blank.'
"Busey tried to make up to me later
when we got back to Seattle. He asked me if I could get him some
good 'grass.' "Sure," I said, hoping to relieve myself of the
junk I had gotten a few weeks ago. I smoked in those days then
quit in ''74. I unloaded the stuff on Busey for quadruple the
price I had paid for it, then went into fearing for my life
again. When I saw Busey again I was terrified, thinking
this was when They were going to have to tear him off me. "Great
stuff Scott," said Gary, "Could you get us some more?" Wow, was I
ever relieved. He told me "Let's go hit some golf balls one of
these days." Sure, I told him, knowing full well I wouldn't be
caught alive on God's green grass with him. Dead maybe. He also
slept with the female star of the movie. The reason I remember
this is that the heroine was married.
"Poor guy. I put a curse on his career, and for the most
part it worked. I now read he is a born again Christian, (as
I am) although on his TV documentary, even his pastor said he had
trouble with Gary. Shocking. I don't believe Gary and I
would have much fellowship, even knowing that. The sound man Tom
Koester, was a real character. He should have been in the
picture. All in all, the film could have been a real estate
classic, as the San Juans Islands are some of the world's most valuable
island real estate... I even saved a guys life in that
movie. Dennis Christopher couldn't swim, (nice time to find out),
and during evening shooting (in the water too) about 39 degrees even in
summer. Christopher was sinking, so I walked underneath him and
put his feet on my shoulders and walked him in. I may have saved the
movie for rotten tomatoe status."
UPDATE 9: John Bilancieri sent this along:
"The last I knew, Skip was living in Sudbury, Mass..
His wife owns and operates "Sumiko Fashion" in Framingham, Mass.. At
one point in the mid-80's, he was going to promote a band that I was
in. He said that he had just retired as V.P. of A&R at Warner
Bros.. He talked a good game, but I never saw any results. He spoke a
lot of the times he spent hanging out with David Carradine, and his
work on the 70's T.V. show Kung Fu."
UPDATE 10: Scotty Holman wrote in with this:
"On a whim, I decided to
do a Google search on 'didn't you hear?' I was thrilled when I found a
site pertaining to the film Didn't You Hear? My excitement only
increased as I perused the site, being reminded of a film which had a
deep impact on me during my high school years, but which I have not
seen since. I nearly drove my mother crazy, begging to go back and see
this strange film again and again. Four times she drove the six miles
or so downtown, dropped me off, drove home, and then came and picked me
up when I called. I even talked her into giving me the money to buy the
soundtrack album, which was on sale at the theater.
"Everything about Didn't You Hear? was cutting edge, from the
the weird plot twists to the soundtrack, which claimed to be the first
entirely electronic movie score. I am inclined to believe it, as the
synthesizers that were used were some of the earliest built. The film
also was meticulous in the cinematography, and the editing foretold the
frenzied splicing which was to become the norm in 7 or 8 years. I was
living in a small, back water town in Washington state at the time, and
movies were one of my favorite forms of escape. But I had never seen
anything like this!
"I was told by some of the staff of the theater that the film was a
doctoral thesis in cinematography, made by a wealthy grad student at
the University of Washington, which is where all the campus footage was
filmed. The rest of the film was shot in the San Juan Islands, off the
northwestern coast of Washington state. Because the cinematography was
the reason for the film, the storyline was not given a lot of
attention, and was mostly created by the doctoral candidate's fellow
students. This created a somewhat confusing state of affairs, as you
are seeing rather inane drama being portrayed with lavish attention to
detail. It seems like it ought to be important, but it really isn't.
But there was more to the film than exercises in filming. Out of the
morass of plot twists, fantasy interludes, and unresolved conflicts, a
gestalt of the times seemed to emerge, one which was kind of like
seeing the world through the eyes of a group of people, instead of a
single character, and experiencing the upheavals and reconsiderations
that the times were forcing on people.
"Of course, I was a lonely, aloof teenager, so this kind of avant garde
filmmaking would strike a chord with me. I often wonder if I would feel
anywhere near as strongly about the film if I were to see it today.
I'll probably never have the chance to find out. But, thank you for
bringing back some memories of another era!"
UPDATE 11: Richard Wiley sent this in:
"I have a strange memory as the son of a theatre
owner in Port Townsend, Wa. In 1970 I was 13 years old. In those days
independent film makers marketed their movies as part of what was then
called "four walls" (if I remember correctly) One of those Film makers
and or "distributor" for Didn't You Hear, asked my dad, Dick
Wiley, owner of the Uptown Theatre in Port Townsend, for a play date.
He agreed and played it to a curious audience for I think only 3 or 4
days. I remember how strange it was and to my Dad, who couldn't have
been any farther away from the "Hippies", this film and the people
involved with it could have been from another planet. We had a small
reception after screening get together at the house one evening and
even that was strange. It was such an odd experience it really stuck in
my memory. Just thought I'd add a little 1970 exhibitor perspective on Didn't
You Hear."
UPDATE 12: I got this from Doyle Bell:
"A bit more grist for your mill about this movie.
"There was an ad placed in the Univ of Washington Husky newspaper about
an open casting call and need for extras for this movie they were
making. I was a poor student, so I showed up in order to make few $$.
"The main scene for "extras" was an auditorium scene where some of us
were told to look bored, others studious. I chose "bored" and gave them
what they wanted. Reality is always better than forced. Later they
called back some of us for another shoot in the "Quad". I guess they
liked my "bored" look.
"They told us the name of the movie and when it was released, so like
most people who were in the film, I went and watched the movie. I
suppose that after almost 40 years, it might be fun to go watch it
again an reflect on my 15 seconds of lost youth.
"Was the movie "memorable"? Beats me."
UPDATE
13: "Michael" sent this in:
"Just
wanted to give my take on the movie as well as a bit more “family
history” first off a shout out to my cousin Ashley you will not
remember me last time I recall you were in diapers and I was like 5
years old. I am in contact 04/2010 with Skip. Your history did provide
additional information and as off beat these movies are that Skip
worked on including the cast, crews, backers, writer’s at that time
this was very innovative and creative at the time. There were few what
we call them Inde films being made because of cost but as a total sum
this one movie did open up and start the independent film makers in
Seattle and through the use of the mog also create a creative music
scene in Seattle that now include some very well known acts. So the
impact of the film its self may not hold much but what it created was
the start of independent producers of music writers and the strangle
hold Hollywood and large producers had on what we see, hear or watch.
The people involved in this up to and including David Carradine and
later movies were the true innovators in their day and I will say that
Skip in many ways was ahead of his time as others of his period that
started true Independent or Inde stuff. So the film has it place few B
rated movies up to this one were ever produced outside Hollywood so it
did start a movement if only because if he did it why can’t I?"
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